Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

[skins7ny]

Enjoy the silence...

LOL. You know the saying "the silence is deafening"? This is the opposite.
I think this is what a normal franchise looks like. (Despite the best efforts of our former PK).

[Winnipeg_Skins_Fan]

we're in the dead zone currently, but camp is edging closer and closer.

This is one of the reasons I’m glad I live in Canada. CFL football is in full swing. In fact NHL playoffs overlapped with the start of the CFL season. As if I needed another reason to stay glued to the TV.

Looking forward to Sept and the start of NFL season.

[Moe]

Some news- team announced they're bringing the gold pants back.

[skins7ny]

We hired Scott Fitterer for an unidentified position in our FO. He was GM of the Panthers, where his record was awful. Of course, David Tepper was probably the de facto GM in Carolina while he had that title, so it may be unfair to judge him on his Panthers tenure. Before that, he was in FO of the Seahawks. I presume that Peters knows him well and thinks highly of him, but it is not a move that will likely inspire much excitement.

[Redskins fan AD]

We hired Scott Fitterer for an unidentified position in our FO. He was GM of the Panthers, where his record was awful. Of course, David Tepper was probably the de facto GM in Carolina while he had that title, so it may be unfair to judge him on his Panthers tenure. Before that, he was in FO of the Seahawks. I presume that Peters knows him well and thinks highly of him, but it is not a move that will likely inspire much excitement.

From what we have already seen, it's evident (to me, at least) that Adam Peters is a very good judge of what it takes to build a successful franchise - I'm looking forward to this franchise getting back to being one of the better franchises in the NFL. There's little doubt that we're going to have a difficult season because of the mess created by the people who have been in charge here for the past 20+ years, but I do think we're on the right track.
So, yes, I do think it's unfair to judge Fitterer on his Panthers tenure. I think we would be better served by looking at what he did with the Seahawks from 2001 - 2020. IMO, Peters is a lot better judge on who to hire than David Tepper.

ALSO, I'm excited about our long-term future

[skinsfan93]

We hired Scott Fitterer for an unidentified position in our FO. He was GM of the Panthers, where his record was awful. Of course, David Tepper was probably the de facto GM in Carolina while he had that title, so it may be unfair to judge him on his Panthers tenure. Before that, he was in FO of the Seahawks. I presume that Peters knows him well and thinks highly of him, but it is not a move that will likely inspire much excitement.

He’s being hired as a personnel executive, not necessarily a high powered position. I will take him over the other guy from Carolina Matt Hurney who I think is awful.

[Moe]

^^nitpick but it's Marty Hurney and yes, he's awful.
No issue with this hire, as stated it seems like Peters has a good handle on things and as opposed to the previous regimes being a small cabal of 'yes men' he seems to have a team of experienced voices to work off of.

[Redskins fan AD]

^^nitpick but it's Marty Hurney and yes, he's awful.
No issue with this hire, as stated it seems like Peters has a good handle on things, and as opposed to the previous regimes being a small cabal of 'yes men' he seems to have a team of experienced voices to work off of.

+1
We all know it's going to take time to get things back on track - Peters has done well so far & Harris will let him do his thing

Looking forward to watching things get better & maybe having a realistic chance to be in the playoffs next season

[Moe]

Unrelated, after not tuning in the last few years, I've been watching the latest 'Hard Knocks' season covering the Giants and it's been interesting to see the footage of their discussions and handling of the draft and free agency. I guess it shouldn't be, but it's slightly surprising how casual a lot of the interactions and resultant deals can be. I know the NFL is a small, borderline incestuous community with lots of close relationships, but the way some of their deals happen just isn't typically business-like. I've always found the front office stuff to be a curiosity in how it functions, and this has shown a little bit more of that process. The stress they go through in free agency waiting to hear back and seeing other players in their fallback plan get signed was well done. Not a great look for the Panthers and Tepper, but that's to be expected.

[skinsfan93]

I’ve been watching Hard Knocks too and that GM for NY comes across very unimpressive to me. It started with him thinking that no one was going to offer Saquan anything more than what they were initially offering him. When the owner Mara says Saquan is the Giants and keeping him is important yet Joe Schoen didn’t do anything to try and keep him besides telling Saquan that he could be on the wall of fame and do you wanna lose that opportunity for just a couple million dollars.

[Moe]

Was interesting to see Daboll get real excited when Schoen asked him about maybe moving up for Jayden.

[Redskins fan AD]

Jason Wright's time with the team is almost up. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/comm ... 24-season/

IMO it's time to move on

[Winnipeg_Skins_Fan]

Jason Wright's time with the team is almost up. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/comm ... 24-season/

IMO it's time to move on

Probably did a lot of good things as president but will forever be known as the guy who brought in the Commanders debacle. I sure hope they change the name in the next couple of years.

[skinsfan93]

Jason Wright really did nothing as President. Not his fault though as Snyder gave him zero decision making abilities including the name change. Essentially he was a figure head for Snyder and someone he needed to take all the arrows from the critics.

[Farmer Ted]

Wright's job was to try to polish a turd. He never had a chance to succeed or to look good.

[skins7ny]

With WR AJ Brown injured, our friend Jahan Dotson has started and played the whole game for Philly tonight. He has 1 catch for 6 yards. It came on a WR end-around screen which schemed him open. The Eagles are finding out what we found out: he can’t get open! He is being vastly outplayed by a WR named Britain Covey an undrafted free agent out of Utah who came out the same year Dotson went #16?overall. He also won’t/can’t block. Glad we got rid of him and got something of value for him.

[Moe]

^^I can't see where Dotson would have helped this team either in that last two weeks.

[skins7ny]

^^I can't see where Dotson would have helped this team either in that last two weeks.

That's kind of my point. Some of his fans said that he will do better with the Eagles because they have a better offense, QB, OLine, etc. He had a golden opportunity yesterday to show what he can do. The answer was, nothing. He is not going to be much better with them than he was with us, because he just can't separate and get open. His catches will come on quick hitters where he is schemed open. He got totally outplayed and outproduced yesterday by an undrafted free agent WR out of Utah-no insult to him, but it just shows how totally overdrafted Dotson was and how fortunate we are to have gotten a 3rd-rounder (plus 2 7ths minus a 5th) for him. It is not too late obviously for Dotson to turn things around in Philly, but early returns show he is there what he was here, i.e. non-productive.

[Redskins fan AD]

Time will tell - Dotson may still turn out to be a good NFL WR - our guys felt that we needed to move on

hopefully, we both benefit from the decision

[Moe]

That's kind of my point. Some of his fans said that he will do better with the Eagles because they have a better offense, QB, OLine, etc. He had a golden opportunity yesterday to show what he can do. The answer was, nothing. He is not going to be much better with them than he was with us, because he just can't separate and get open. His catches will come on quick hitters where he is schemed open. He got totally outplayed and outproduced yesterday by an undrafted free agent WR out of Utah-no insult to him, but it just shows how totally overdrafted Dotson was and how fortunate we are to have gotten a 3rd-rounder (plus 2 7ths minus a 5th) for him. It is not too late obviously for Dotson to turn things around in Philly, but early returns show he is there what he was here, i.e. non-productive.

I was one of those saying he had a shot to really showcase his talents. There's plenty of good talent on that offense for him to find a role and produce, so if he can't then he might ride his rookie reputation for a little while longer, but that'll only get him a scant few chances more. The lack of physicality might be his downfall, certainly appears that way at this point, so kudos for the team for moving on and getting something for him before losing any value.

[Redskins fan AD]

We are looking at a huge rebuild and if we're lucky it will take 2 seasons to get things together here, more likely it will take 3 (& possibly 4) seasons to fix the mess these news guys inherited.

here's an article that should be interesting reading for some here ... https://www.hogshaven.com/2024/9/20/242 ... todays-nfl

I'm encouraged by what we have seen so far and I think we may be looking at being a playoff contender next season just because this ownership group & Adam Peters have found the most difficult piece in QB Jayden Daniels

HTTR

[skins7ny]

Looks like iIwas wrong about DE K.J. Henry. Apparently, the Bengals cut him already. They just signed him to their practice squad today. He obviously passed through waivers without being claimed to anyone's active roster. Doesn't mean he won't still develop, but apparently 30 other teams had a chance to get him for free, and all 30 teams passed. Other teams must have been as unimpressed with his film as Peters and Quinn were.

[skins7ny]

Dunno that this is the correct thread for this story, but Mike Silver is reporting that Mike Shanahan wanted to trade RGIII and go with Kirk Cousins as our QB after their rookie season. He thought that we might get back the 3 first-rounders we surrendered to get Griffin.
https://mocoshow.com/2024/09/26/mike-sh ... ore-100023
Can you imagine if Snyder (and Allen) had stayed out of Shanahan's way and allowed him to make a deal? Coming off his OROY, even with his knee injury, i imagine we could have gotten at least 2 firsts back for Griffin. Even more importantly, it would have meant that we were committing to Kirk as our QB, which is a failure that we are only recovering from now, 12 years later. And we could have used those picks to surround Kirk with better talent and build the team up. Yet another way Snyder's meddling and breathtaking stupidity cost us fans.

[skinsfan93]

Dunno that this is the correct thread for this story, but Mike Silver is reporting that Mike Shanahan wanted to trade RGIII and go with Kirk Cousins as our QB after their rookie season. He thought that we might get back the 3 first-rounders we surrendered to get Griffin.
https://mocoshow.com/2024/09/26/mike-sh ... ore-100023
Can you imagine if Snyder (and Allen) had stayed out of Shanahan's way and allowed him to make a deal? Coming off his OROY, even with his knee injury, i imagine we could have gotten at least 2 firsts back for Griffin. Even more importantly, it would have meant that we were committing to Kirk as our QB, which is a failure that we are only recovering from now, 12 years later. And we could have used those picks to surround Kirk with better talent and build the team up. Yet another way Snyder's meddling and breathtaking stupidity cost us fans.

There was a lot of chatter that Kirk was favored over RG. Obviously Gruden felt the same way since he started Kirk over him. RG was Dans boy and there was no way Dan would have allowed a trade. I don’t blame him completely because think about RGs rookie season. He got us to the playoffs and it looked like we were a team building with Alfred at rb, Santana and Pierre at wideout and Fred Davis and Cooley at TE.

Can you imagine the fan base if they traded RG after his rookie year? In hindsight it would have made our team much better in the long run plus guys simply didn’t like RG as a teammate.

[Redskins fan AD]

this franchise would have been a lot better off if Dan Snyder had never been the owner ...

HTTR