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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby lorimike » Sun Jun 12, 2022 11:02 am

RI Skins fan wrote:I LOVE this - JDR needs to understand that you can't make radical statements when you are in the position that he's in

Rivera is totally right to do what he did - LOVE IT


that sums it up perfectly



let's get back to what really matters - with or without JDR
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby MissouriSkin » Sun Jun 12, 2022 12:43 pm

The owner made a space for this. Please take it there.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby Farmer Ted » Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:44 pm

I was listening to I think the standig podcast yesterday, and he had a guest on who said that the Wentz pickup could end up a lot like the Stafford pickup last year. He wasn't talking super bowl, but just that Wentz is a lot like Stafford. I really hope this works out, it would be a freaking coup if the offense clicks next season.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby MissouriSkin » Sun Jun 12, 2022 1:54 pm

I go back to the stats I’ve seen where for almost 2/3s of the season, Wentz was a top 5 QB last year. Those are hard stats to ignore.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby Theismann to HOF » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:25 pm

It pains me to say this as a lifelong Washington fan, but I hope the defense gets crushed this season and Jack del Rio is fired after a few games.

Since the defense was historically bad last season, it shouldn't be a big stretch for that to happen, anyway.

Some of the African American players on defense are not going to give 100% this season. I wouldn't play my best for an asshole like JDR, either. JDR's comments are going to result in a toxic locker room, as long as he is still the defensive coordinator. You can't have idiots like JDR in positions of authority on a team. It never works out in the long run.

This season is going to be an unmitigated disaster.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby RI Skins fan » Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:57 pm

MissouriSkin wrote:I go back to the stats I’ve seen where for almost 2/3s of the season, Wentz was a top 5 QB last year. Those are hard stats to ignore.

what's hard to ignore is that Wentz offers so much more than we had last season

maybe he's not going to be great but at worst case scenario he's going to allow us time to get Howell ready to play

I'm looking forward to getting more from our offense and a lot more from our defense

btw - Taylor Heinicke is not going anywhere, for now - he's our #2 QB until Howell has some time to get ready
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby VegasSkinsFan » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:13 am

Saw this, not expecting much from either other than depth for camp :
We have signed the following players:
- DT Justin Hamilton
-OT Willie Beavers
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby MissouriSkin » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:26 am

RI Skins fan wrote:what's hard to ignore is that Wentz offers so much more than we had last season

maybe he's not going to be great but at worst case scenario he's going to allow us time to get Howell ready to play

I'm looking forward to getting more from our offense and a lot more from our defense

btw - Taylor Heinicke is not going anywhere, for now - he's our #2 QB until Howell has some time to get ready


I’m of the mind that a much or even moderately improved offense will help the defense a lot.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby RI Skins fan » Tue Jun 14, 2022 2:08 pm

IMO we are not looking at Wentz as being a long-term QB but rather as a better alternative to what we had and a bridge to our future franchise QB
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby lorimike » Tue Jun 14, 2022 9:18 pm

Well, Terry McLaurin is not re-signed yet. That is the whole morning to night show on the 106.7 the fan. It's all they talk about. ugggg.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby RI Skins fan » Tue Jun 14, 2022 10:46 pm

I feel for you guys - the media BS in that area is out of control
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby Farmer Ted » Tue Jun 14, 2022 11:47 pm

Personally, I think they are going to blow it with McLaurin. The time to trade him is past, and I think the optimal time to sign him is also long over. I can see this turning into a situation where he is franchised 1-2 years and then walks for a comp pick. He also had to be pissed that they drafted his clone in the first round this year.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby lorimike » Wed Jun 15, 2022 6:00 am

Farmer Ted wrote:Personally, I think they are going to blow it with McLaurin. The time to trade him is past, and I think the optimal time to sign him is also long over. I can see this turning into a situation where he is franchised 1-2 years and then walks for a comp pick. He also had to be pissed that they drafted his clone in the first round this year.
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Allen signed last July 30th. I think they will get it done by training camp.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby MissouriSkin » Wed Jun 15, 2022 10:20 am

It’ll get done. This issue is a product of 10 different sports networks with 24 hours a day to fill and everyone who ever watched a high school football game having a podcast and thinking they need to comment on everything. My favorite is all these folks who’ve never played football or worked for a team being like…. “Well I’d have done this or that and because it wasn’t done to my satisfaction everyone involved sucks and is dumb”. It’s all to get attention.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby RI Skins fan » Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:22 pm

MissouriSkin wrote:It’ll get done. This issue is a product of 10 different sports networks with 24 hours a day to fill and everyone who ever watched a high school football game having a podcast and thinking they need to comment on everything. My favorite is all these folks who’ve never played football or worked for a team being like - “Well I’d have done this or that and because it wasn’t done to my satisfaction everyone involved sucks and is dumb”. It’s all to get attention.

totally agree - McLaurin is a happy camper here
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby Farmer Ted » Wed Jun 15, 2022 3:27 pm

RI Skins fan wrote:totally agree - McLaurin is a happy camper here


Really? Why is he skipping mandatory practices and taking fines? I don't recall Allen doing that last year.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby RI Skins fan » Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:11 am

Farmer Ted wrote:Really? Why is he skipping mandatory practices and taking fines? I don't recall Allen doing that last year.

Because he can - it’s all part of the process that players go through to get the money they deserve

Implying that McLaurin is upset or concerned is just media BS
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby MissouriSkin » Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:30 am

Gonna fill time on ESPN 1-6, FSN, NFLN and 85 podcasts with something.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby MissouriSkin » Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:43 am

I mean….”reporters” are asking Ron what he thinks of Howell only eating chicken……
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby Moe » Fri Jun 17, 2022 10:22 am

WaPo had an article today on the TE spot, some notes:
-people thought the team went to Vegas to scout Carson Strong but they were always interested in Cole Turner.
- positional flexibility is always something the offense looks for and in Turner and Thomas there are two guys who likely will move around the formations and really cause issues for the D.
- Since '17, Wentz has targeted TE at just over 30% of all passes which is second most in league.
- last year they kept 4 TE on active roster, so assuming Thomas and Bates are locks, Turner has inside edge, which leave 1 spot for AGG, Hodges, Rogers and Reyes.
- All of Turner, AGG, Hodges, Rogers and Reyes are relatively new to the TE spot, but all have the athleticism to change the formations and play off the line.
- Turner worked with Joe Staley on blocking this off-season and AGG is over 230lbs. and showed more strength in early pratices.
- as a group they are huge: AGG is smallest at 6'4" and 230 and Hodges is 6'8"...big targets.
- OC Turner joked that this group might allow them to get crazy and not just run 11 or 12 personnel (1rb and 1/2TE respectively) but maybe play 13 or 14 personnel. Nod towards Belichick and how use platoons TE's and the mismatches they can create.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby VegasSkinsFan » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:13 am

Moe wrote:WaPo had an article today on the TE spot, some notes:
-people thought the team went to Vegas to scout Carson Strong but they were always interested in Cole Turner.
- positional flexibility is always something the offense looks for and in Turner and Thomas there are two guys who likely will move around the formations and really cause issues for the D.
- Since '17, Wentz has targeted TE at just over 30% of all passes which is second most in league.
- last year they kept 4 TE on active roster, so assuming Thomas and Bates are locks, Turner has inside edge, which leave 1 spot for AGG, Hodges, Rogers and Reyes.
- All of Turner, AGG, Hodges, Rogers and Reyes are relatively new to the TE spot, but all have the athleticism to change the formations and play off the line.
- Turner worked with Joe Staley on blocking this off-season and AGG is over 230lbs. and showed more strength in early pratices.
- as a group they are huge: AGG is smallest at 6'4" and 230 and Hodges is 6'8"...big targets.
- OC Turner joked that this group might allow them to get crazy and not just run 11 or 12 personnel (1rb and 1/2TE respectively) but maybe play 13 or 14 personnel. Nod towards Belichick and how use platoons TE's and the mismatches they can create.


I actually think that the TE group is the one i am most excited to see in camp. Some very intriguing prospects/potential with those backend guys but lots to learn for them. I would love to see all of the above names, at worst , show enough to at least make the practice squad. I also heard that Armah(?), the FB, got a mention...i think it was Keim? WR6 is going to be a dogfight too, my guess is that the top-5 are pretty much set.

Other positions/names i saw mentioned yesterday ; both Percy Butler and Christian Holmes started to show out recently, which would be huge for our DB depth. Darrick Forrest seems to be getting some attention too, has been lining up as the BN. Jamin Davis got reps in the 1-LB set. I think Davis could be a fun part-time option playing the BN. Both Turner and JDR have the players that are versatile enough to lineup in one spot and then re-set elsewhere to really confuse an offense.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby VegasSkinsFan » Fri Jun 17, 2022 11:43 am

The NFL fined Ron Rivera $100k and stripped us of 2 OTA practices in 2023 due to excessive contact
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby ILikeSonny09 » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:14 pm

VegasSkinsFan wrote:The NFL fined Ron Rivera $100k and stripped us of 2 OTA practices in 2023 due to excessive contact


Holy Smokes! Should I buy some lottery tickets between now and then or will I be throwing my money away? ;)
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby Farmer Ted » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:23 pm

VegasSkinsFan wrote:The NFL fined Ron Rivera $100k and stripped us of 2 OTA practices in 2023 due to excessive contact


Wow, how TF would the NFL even know? Someone had to rat them out. Or was this because Reaves cleaned Dynami Brown's clock?
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby VegasSkinsFan » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:45 pm

^^ both the Reaves hit and the Forrest hit were written about in the post-practice writeups so its not like nobody knew they happened.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby Moe » Fri Jun 17, 2022 4:38 pm

Dallas and Houston also got dinged for same reason.
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby VegasSkinsFan » Fri Jun 17, 2022 9:12 pm

I thank the teams have to send the tapes from practice out to be reviewed??
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby Little General » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:50 am

Only the Commanders would be fined for too much contact in a no pads workout. Maybe this off season is not their best season. At least Snyder turned down the very polite and gracious invitation he got to testify before a congressional committee. Snyder testifying before politicians is like the pot testifying before the kettle. It is true that there is no way that Wentz could play bad enough to equal the jokes that the non players are from ownership on down. How could players be inspired to play their best for this bunch unless it is to be attractive to another team?
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby MissouriSkin » Mon Jun 20, 2022 10:59 am

Oh dear god. Read the article where it mentions several other teams got fined for the same thing….
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Re: 2022 offseason...what now?

Postby Little General » Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:45 am

I stand corrected assuming the article does exist. I retract the word "only". The rest of my post stands. Where is the article, in the Washington Post?
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