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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby MissouriSkin » Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:36 pm

lorimike wrote:Merril Hoge says Drake Maye is the kind of quarterback that will get a coach fired.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NZDh2-_Ip6g



Ummm…..ok. His opinion means what again? He’s an old full back…..
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby lorimike » Thu Apr 11, 2024 2:53 pm

MissouriSkin wrote:Ummm…..ok. His opinion means what again? He’s an old full back…..



16 for 36 against Clemson. He's got big bust potential.
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby MissouriSkin » Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:10 pm

Ok. Everyone has bust potential if you pick one bad game.
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby lorimike » Thu Apr 11, 2024 3:25 pm

MissouriSkin wrote:Ok. Everyone has bust potential if you pick one bad game.



Jay Gruden was just on 106.7. He has Maye as the 4 best QB. Chris Simms has Maye as the 6th best Quarterback.
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby MissouriSkin » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:04 pm

Ok. I don’t give two shits what either one of them think. Both have been wrong about takes as often as they’ve been right. I honestly don’t care who we draft, just want them to be good. Literally everyone disagrees on if it’s Maye or Daniel’s at 2 and I’m content to just wait instead of trying to convince everyone any viewpoint it the right one.
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby lorimike » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:22 pm

MissouriSkin wrote:Ok. I don’t give two shits what either one of them think. Both have been wrong about takes as often as they’ve been right. I honestly don’t care who we draft, just want them to be good. Literally everyone disagrees on if it’s Maye or Daniel’s at 2 and I’m content to just wait instead of trying to convince everyone any viewpoint it the right one.
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I think Maye is really going to fall in this draft.
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Postby MissouriSkin » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:35 pm

Ok. Cool. I can show as many articles that say he’s going to be great and people are overthinking his problems. He’ll I’ve read articles that say he’s going to be better than Williams. I’ve read articles that say Daniels is going to drop in the teens. I’ve seen one saying Penix is going to sneak up to the 20s. Who knows. I swear the draft was more interesting before it was 24/7 talk on 8 million outlets for 3 months straight. lol.
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby lorimike » Thu Apr 11, 2024 4:55 pm

MissouriSkin wrote:Ok. Cool. I can show as many articles that say he’s going to be great and people are overthinking his problems. He’ll I’ve read articles that say he’s going to be better than Williams. I’ve read articles that say Daniels is going to drop in the teens. I’ve seen one saying Penix is going to sneak up to the 20s. Who knows. I swear the draft was more interesting before it was 24/7 talk on 8 million outlets for 3 months straight. lol.
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I enjoy the prognostications and banter.
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby MissouriSkin » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:07 pm

I don’t simply because usually people pick a hill to die on and incessantly defend their position by putting down other people and their opinions to the point of absurdity.
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby lorimike » Thu Apr 11, 2024 5:15 pm

MissouriSkin wrote:I don’t simply because usually people pick a hill to die on and incessantly defend their position by putting down other people and their opinions to the point of absurdity.
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No worries. Just my football opinion. Guys that get paid to do this for a living often get it wrong. Jay Gruden said on 106.7 today they wanted Ryan Kelly C-Alabama back in 2016 NFL Draft. Indy took him one pick before us so they all told each other " what do we do now ". They took Josh Doctson. The rest is history. Amazing how badly this organization was run under Snyder,
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby skins7ny » Thu Apr 11, 2024 6:24 pm

lorimike wrote:<<<<<

No worries. Just my football opinion. Guys that get paid to do this for a living often get it wrong. Jay Gruden said on 106.7 today they wanted Ryan Kelly C-Alabama back in 2016 NFL Draft. Indy took him one pick before us so they all told each other " what do we do now ". They took Josh Doctson. The rest is history. Amazing how badly this organization was run under Snyder,
One of my big pet peeves (there were many) with our FO throughout the Snyder Error is that we always telegraphed whom we wanted, like a little child that was incapable of not holding the information in. Everyone knew we wanted Kelly. Maybe the Colts would have taken Kelly anyway (it was 3 picks ahead of us) and they were (wisely) trying to build their OL. But we will never know.

I am very happy to see that our new regime does not telegraph its intentions. It appears that adults are in charge for the first time in ages.
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby Farmer Ted » Thu Apr 11, 2024 8:53 pm

skins7ny wrote:One of my big pet peeves (there were many) with our FO throughout the Snyder Error is that we always telegraphed whom we wanted, like a little child that was incapable of not holding the information in. Everyone knew we wanted Kelly. Maybe the Colts would have taken Kelly anyway (it was 3 picks ahead of us) and they were (wisely) trying to build their OL. But we will never know.

I am very happy to see that our new regime does not telegraph its intentions. It appears that adults are in charge for the first time in ages.


It was bad news last year when Fred Smoot was on every podcast the week of the draft talking about how great Forbes was. He clearly knew Ron was going to draft him. I also heard the Belichik was fine with trading back and drafting after us because he knew we weren't going to take Christian Gonzalez.
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby Moe » Fri Apr 12, 2024 9:19 am

VegasSkinsFan wrote:Chinn/Wagner/Luvo are the 3 amigos. Add in Davis' speed and the middle of the field will not be an issue this year. We added some very solid players, heck even Clelin Ferall is beast of a run stopper. As long as the secondary holds up/improves, this could be a very tough defense for teams to go up against.

There's a clear aggressiveness/toughness improvement from adding these players, but they need to make sure they have some backend guys that can cover. Fuller was the best at this and he's gone, the rest have a lot of questions to answer.
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Postby Redskins fan AD » Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:13 am

Moe wrote:There's a clear aggressiveness/toughness improvement from adding these players, but they need to make sure they have some backend guys who can cover. Fuller was the best at this and he's gone, the rest have a lot of questions to answer.

It's not hard to expect a lot more from our secondary. Hell, it's almost impossible to imagine the whole defense will not be better than last season. We just need to see the offense improve & without the stupid play-calling from Bieniemy we should be better
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby Moe » Fri Apr 12, 2024 1:45 pm

^^^Some balance would be nice. Can't seem to put together a team where the offense and the defense both offer some support to one another, it's always been one-sided with the bad one being really, really bad.
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby VegasSkinsFan » Fri Apr 12, 2024 2:27 pm

I've been digging into some possible/realistic Day 2/3 trade backs. Tankathon has the full 7 round draft order
https://www.tankathon.com/nfl/full_draft

If we could swap our #40 for Atlanta's #43 and grab either or both of Atlanta's 3rd rounders I would jump on that in a heartbeat. That would get us 5 picks in R3 and then maybe trade #78 for maybe both of NYJ 4th rounders. things like that...small moves back and still add quality picks. I wonder if Peters is looking for adding some 2025 picks? I doubt he would trade one of the 2025 picks for something this year though.
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby Redskins fan AD » Fri Apr 12, 2024 5:05 pm

Moe wrote:^^^Some balance would be nice. Can't seem to put together a team where the offense and the defense both offer some support to one another, it's always been one-sided with the bad one being really, really bad.

fortunately, these new guys are an upgrade over what we've had here for a while :D
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby Skins-R-Us » Tue Apr 16, 2024 4:42 pm

A lot of people on Youtube are saying this is a pretty substantial move.

The Commanders have hired former Dave Gardi as their new senior VP of football initiatives, source confirmed.

Gardi worked in the league office since 2003 and held the title Senior VP of Footbal Operations since 2014.
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby MissouriSkin » Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:14 pm

Skins-R-Us wrote:A lot of people on Youtube are saying this is a pretty substantial move.

The Commanders have hired former Dave Gardi as their new senior VP of football initiatives, source confirmed.

Gardi worked in the league office since 2003 and held the title Senior VP of Footbal Operations since 2014.


Am I the only one who has no idea what the heck that position is/means?
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby skins7ny » Tue Apr 16, 2024 8:57 pm

I was wondering the same exact thing.

Isn’t the word “football” in his title kinda redundant :)?
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby Redskins fan AD » Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:14 am

skins7ny wrote:I was wondering the same exact thing.
Isn’t the word “football” in his title kinda redundant :)?

maybe this helps ... a little :D
Washington hired Dave Gardi away from the league office to serve as the senior vice president of football initiatives. Gardi will handle in-game management duties for the Commanders, supporting the coaching staff and front office on compliance with NFL protocols, officiating trends, and health and safety protocols.

although, I'm still not sure what he does
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Postby Moe » Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:15 am

Sounds like a quality control/process official. if it helps.....
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Postby Redskins fan AD » Wed Apr 17, 2024 9:23 am

On Tuesday Harris added another guy to the mix ...
On Tuesday, owner Josh Harris made another big hire, bringing top Senate aide Kirtan Mehta, per Hans Nichols of Axios. Mehta’s new role will focus on Washington’s search for a new home. While the team would likely prefer to build its new stadium on the old RFK Stadium site in D.C., some hurdles remain. He’s the hire a new NFL owner would make to navigate the politics of moving a team from the Maryland suburbs to a parcel of land that the federal government currently owns. D.C., Maryland, and Virginia all want the Commanders, and Mehta will be instrumental in Harris finding the best possible deal for the franchise.
Washington mayor Muriel Bowser has been outspoken about the Commanders returning to D.C. since Harris bought the team from former owner Dan Snyder last year.
Nichols on Mehta: Mehta’s first task will be getting House-passed legislation through the Senate that would allow Bowser to negotiate with Harris on a potential package for a stadium on the banks of the Anacostia River. Mehta comes to the Commanders after serving as the chief of staff for Senator John Hickenlooper (D-CO). He previously worked with Senator Joe Manchin (D-WV) for five years. Manchin chairs the Energy & Natural Resources committee.
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Postby skins7ny » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:06 pm

FWIW, DE/LB Shaka Toney was reinstated by the NFL today off suspension. I wonder if we will bring him to camp. I could see him sticking as a LB under the new regime. He played with requisite effort and has some skills, he might just be too much of a tweener, and now he has been away from the game a long time.
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Postby skins7ny » Thu Apr 18, 2024 7:07 pm

I just checked out of curiosity, and the team's website already has placed him back on the roster! They have him listed as a DE.
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Postby Moe » Fri Apr 19, 2024 9:25 am

^^Yeah saw that he's on the roster as well and that's cool. He did a dumb thing and paid a price, he has some ability so I'd like to see him get a shot. A rotational OLB/DE is a bit of a need for this squad but they can add something in the draft and up the competition ante, let the best man win.

WaPo had an article talking about how the new kickoff rules will have an impact on how teams add to their return game. Going to see more size used on the blocking end, but teams will need to have more of a dedicated returned which will play out in the draft. With all the good WR's this year, be interesting to see how it plays out.
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Postby Skins-R-Us » Mon Apr 22, 2024 10:49 am

Commanderspost
We have released DE Shaka Toney

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Postby Winnipeg_Skins_Fan » Mon Apr 22, 2024 11:51 am

Skins-R-Us wrote:Commanderspost
We have released DE Shaka Toney

Apr 22, 2024

I agree with that decision. Not a player they drafted and don’t need that distraction under a new regime. Let Toney get a fresh start elsewhere.
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby Moe » Thu Apr 25, 2024 8:59 am

Team declined the 5th year option on LB Davis. It's on him now, play and earn it or they can move on. The option would've paid @$14.5m which was top 4 in the league, he's clearly not at that level but I am interested to see how he plays this year in what should be a better system and with some better LB help.
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Re: Draft/ Free Agency,Coach, GM 2024

Postby Redskins fan AD » Thu Apr 25, 2024 9:16 am

What a shame it was for a lot of players who were not helped by being a part of this franchise ...

hopefully, that is all behind us now
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